Date: Sun, 12 Dec 93 14:13:19 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1455 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Sun, 12 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1455 Today's Topics: 1.5 foot Microwave Dish *HELP* 6-m Transverters (2 msgs) Alinco DJ-580T Scanning Speed (YAWN!) Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta: phonetic alphabets E-mail address for REC.RADIO.SCANNER ? Help with HW101 hypochondriac scared of cancer! Icom u-2at battery Need info on amateur ham radio in UK..... Unusual request/RFI (2 msgs) W5YI's coverage of "temporary callsigns" Send Replies or notes for publication to: Send subscription requests to: Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 17:43:13 GMT From: news.cerf.net!pagesat!olivea!sgigate.sgi.com!sgiblab!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!fconvx.ncifcrf.gov!fcs260c!mack@network.ucsd.edu Subject: 1.5 foot Microwave Dish *HELP* To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <2e2s1a$nte@cyberspace.com> matthew@cyberspace.com (Matthew Chastain) writes: > >Subject: 1.5 foot Microwave Dish *HELP* >Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc >Summary: >Keywords: > > >Recently I purchased a surplus aircraft microwave dish and would like to use >it. The only problem is I have not been able to find very much information >on feeding it. I do have 2 feed horns that go to it, but am afraid that >I will have to adapt a gunplexer! Here is the information on the dish. I hope this doesn't seem too barbaric, but what people do around here is mount the gunnplexer on a plate, get 3 long threaded screws from the hardware store, and mount the gunnplexer at the focus. Adjust the slong threaded rods for focus. Joe NA3T mack@ncifcrf.gov ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 16:50:44 GMT From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!tudelft.nl!news.twi.tudelft.nl!dejongh@network.ucsd.edu Subject: 6-m Transverters To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <9312092235.AA16680@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov>, Robert Carpenter wrote: > > >One of the main disadvatages is the small number of 6-m transverters >available. Most (all?) currently-available xverters use the common 10-W >output module also used by the 10-W all-mode rigs. The cheapest available >6-to-10 xverter that I know of is the Down East Microwave unit. It looked >mechanically very nice at last summer's Central States conference. You can >find their ad in QST and other ham mags. Hmm, Robert, I disagree. You mean *commercially* available transverters? E.g. I'm using a transverter that when you look at the scheme make your eyes drop. 4 transistors. OK, of course, when you want to have a bit more output than you'll have to make/buy an amplifier. >You'll want 100 watts or so output on 6 SSB/CW, so an amplifier will be >needed with any 10 W xverter or rig. A 50-W rig is the minimum you'd want. That's what I mean! Build it yourself... can be very educating too! > >73 Bob w3otc@amsat.org Remco PA3FYM (besten@chem.ruu.nl) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 17:13:02 GMT From: galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!nshore!seastar!jjw@network.ucsd.edu Subject: 6-m Transverters To: info-hams@ucsd.edu As quoted from by galen@picea.CFNR.ColoState.EDU (Galen Watts): > In article <9312092235.AA16680@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov> rc@cmr.ncsl.NIst.GOV (Robert Carpenter) writes: > >You'll want 100 watts or so output on 6 SSB/CW, so an amplifier will be > >needed with any 10 W xverter or rig. A 50-W rig is the minimum you'd want. > >73 Bob w3otc@amsat.org > > Sure, 100 watts if you want to be on every TV in the neighborhood ;-). > > Seriously, I don't do too bad with my Icom 726 and only 10 watts. Quite > often, I find myself turning down to even lower wattages. I use a homebrew > 3 ele yagi up about 40 feet. > Galen, KF0YJ, DN70 Several years ago, we had a Swan 250 250 watt 6m rig. One day when 6 was open, we were chasing around the band and worked every station that a guy in Oregon was working, with about the same signal reports. We worked him, too, and he sounded quite acceptable. He was using 250mW on a home-brewed portable into a dipole. That's when we started looking into QRP.... Seriously, when 6 is open 10 watts will do *very* well, and when it's closed 10kw won't make a dent in things. Where more power will help is when it's starting to collaps, then *maybe* you can get in a final 73, but 6 tends to close rather fast so it's iffy even then. -- John Welch, N9JZW ------------------------------ Date: 11 Dec 1993 12:03 CDT From: cs.utexas.edu!bcm!TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU!zeus.tamu.edu!tskloss@uunet.uu.net Subject: Alinco DJ-580T Scanning Speed (YAWN!) To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article , nick@hotcity.COM (Nick Assar) writes... >Is there ANYWAY possible to increase the scanning speed of the Alinco? >It's quicker just to rotate the knob manually or hold down the UP/DOWN arrows. >Saddening! > >- Nick The main reason for this is the new scanner laws going into effect in the US. If a receiver can scan more than 4 *programmed* frequencies in one second, then it falls under the scanner laws and restrictions. Even though HT's aren't normally bought for their scanning capabilities, manufacturers aren't taking any chances of damaging thier overseas transciever markets. My Yeasu 2200 mobile will slowly scan programmed freqs, but blazes through the band on a start-stop frequency limit scan. As far as mods for this type go, I'm sure it's possible on a few models, but have no particular examples... :-( -tim /------------------------------------------------------------------\ |* *(* (**)(* *)* *)*| Tim Skloss KC5DNA | |* * \/ \/ * *| Texas A&M University, Dept. of Chemistry | |* /=========\ *| College Station, TX 77843-3255 | |* | OXFORD | | LABORATORY FOR MAGNETIC RESONANCE | | | mags. | *| AND MOLECULAR SCIENCE | |* | RULE! | | voice: (409) 845-4459 | | |_________| | fax: (409) 845-4719 | | || || | Internet: TSKLOSS@venus.tamu.edu | | == == | My opinions do not reflect those of TAMU! | \------------------------------------------------------------------/ "The brain is much like a computer; therefore dumb people do not exist, just people running DOS!" PowerPC - The ULTIMATE personal computing machine. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 20:07:14 GMT From: darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!bck1@seismo.css.gov Subject: Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta: phonetic alphabets To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Alpha Bravo alphabets Here is a collection of alphabets of the Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta kind, variously known as radio alphabets, phonetic alphabets and spelling alphabets. This collection currently includes alphabets for the following languages: English, French, German, Dutch, Flemish, Italian, Rumantsch, Swedish, Hungarian, Finnish and Russian. This posting supersedes the one of 29th October. My thanks to the many contributors, not all of whom are acknowledged below. I can make no guarantee of accuracy of this information; indeed please send me any corrections or additions. Comments in square brackets are my own. Brian Kelk bck1@cl.cam.ac.uk 10 December 1993 ***** ENGLISH ***** The NATO phonetic alphabet: Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu [The same alphabet, modulo Alfa and Juliett, is approved by the International Civil Aviation Organization and the FAA. UK police use Indigo instead of India (?)] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Dec 93 20:27:07 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: E-mail address for REC.RADIO.SCANNER ? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I have tried in vain to find an E-mail address so I might subscribe to REC.RADIO.SCANNER. Does anyone have the proper address for requesting to be put on this list?...my local Gopher listings did not have it. Thanks.....Ken Carr.....KB1AWV..... IQC109@URIACC.URI.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 14:01:49 GMT From: metro!basser.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!nic.hookup.net!news.kei.com!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!silver.ucs.indiana.edu!@@munnari.oz.au Subject: Help with HW101 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Greetings! My HW-101 is giving me some troubles and I was hoping there might be a few heathkit gurus on the net. It has the following symptoms. 1) Power supply has two settings: 250V and 300V. Receiver works with either. Mic will key the transmitter with either. CW key will not key the transmitter in 250V 2) When AF gain is over half up (PS at 300V), the CW key will not key the transmitter. Turning AF gain below 50% will allow the key to function. (You can hear the tones softly with the AF up, but the transmitter does not actually switch on...the tones are just coming through the receiver) The mike will key the transmitter regardless of af position. 3) CW key gives full power (actually my meter show more than supposed full power shooting up the antenna). Mic gives about 1/4 power (20-25W). 4) Transmitted power steadily declines with use (though this may be due to over-heating from unrstricted air flow...) Any help/ideas would be appreciated. Thanx Dave David J Adams, N9UXU Internet: djadams@silver.ucs.indiana.edu Amiga User and Flow Cytometry Advocate Looking for a mobile 2m and/or 70cm rig Conure Society of America. "Push the button Frank..." --- -. .-.. -.-- .- -- .. --. .- ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 1993 14:32:55 -0500 From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpuerca.atl.hp.com!hpuerca!edh@network.ucsd.edu Subject: hypochondriac scared of cancer! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In <1993Dec3.223244.1@aurora.alaska.edu> fsjtc@aurora.alaska.edu writes: >What I want to know is: is having that antennae 100 ft away from my dorm >room window any kind of health risk? Be honest! I wanna know the facts! YES! You can strain your eyes looking for the danger! And who knows how much damage may accrue when the tower collapses during the next "big one" in Alaska! Cheers! N5RCK Ed Humphries HP Atlanta GA ------------------------------ Date: 12 Dec 93 17:25:45 GMT From: ogicse!emory!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!bgsuvax!dicken@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Icom u-2at battery To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I have an Icom u-2at that is at least 5 years old. The battery used for the display circuit is soldered onto the circuit board, and is quickly nearing the end of its life. Short of sending the radio back to the factory to be "lost" for weeks, is there anyone who may be familar with changing it? I am very comfortable with opening the unit. Another question might be, should the battery die outright, will the radio continue to work? Thank you and happy holidays. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 1993 19:10:28 GMT From: utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!umhaugh0@uunet.uu.net Subject: Need info on amateur ham radio in UK..... To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I figure sometime next year or so I will be moving to the UK and I thought that picking up a ham-radio licence would be an intersting way to keep in contact with some of my friends in Canada. I am not aware of the difference in the "rules" of amateur ham radio operation in the UK and was hoping someone could fill me in. Particularly I'd like to know if I got my licence in Canada would it be void in the UK? What frequencies do they use over there? For example, if I bought a dual band radio here would it work over there or would I have to purchase one in the UK? Any other info would be greatly appreciated... Bruce umhaugh0@cc.umanitoba.ca ------------------------------ Date: 12 Dec 93 07:40:21 GMT From: ogicse!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!jweiss@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Unusual request/RFI To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1993Dec12.052005.865@Princeton.EDU>, Fernando Camilo wrote: >Hi -- > >I'm a radio astronomer doing research at Arecibo Observatory's 305 >meter radio telescope in Puerto Rico. I mostly use receivers tuned to >a center frequency of 430 MHz, with a bandwidth of 10 MHz. RFI is >occasionally bad, but this past month it has been positively >*horrendous*, and has destroyed 90% + of my observations. I'm at wit's >end, and would so very much appreciate any help... > >This RFI is radar. I've thought about AWACS (it started in a bad way >around the time the Haitian embargo also started). However, as I learn >more about it, it seems clear that *by far* the worse times are between >about 3 and 9 pm local time (one hour ahead of EST), which doesn't seem >consistent with the idea of AWACS. Naval radar also seems improbable: >the Naval Station on the island is usually cooperative, and they claim (misc deleted) What about the Wind Profilers? These are used to characterize highl level winds. They are in this band, use high power, but they are almost excusively directed vertically. Jerry -WB9MRI -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 05:20:05 GMT From: puppsr12!fernando@princeton.edu Subject: Unusual request/RFI To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Hi -- I'm a radio astronomer doing research at Arecibo Observatory's 305 meter radio telescope in Puerto Rico. I mostly use receivers tuned to a center frequency of 430 MHz, with a bandwidth of 10 MHz. RFI is occasionally bad, but this past month it has been positively *horrendous*, and has destroyed 90% + of my observations. I'm at wit's end, and would so very much appreciate any help... This RFI is radar. I've thought about AWACS (it started in a bad way around the time the Haitian embargo also started). However, as I learn more about it, it seems clear that *by far* the worse times are between about 3 and 9 pm local time (one hour ahead of EST), which doesn't seem consistent with the idea of AWACS. Naval radar also seems improbable: the Naval Station on the island is usually cooperative, and they claim not to know what this is. If it were a passing ship not under their control, it probably wouldn't have stayed in range for a month now... I've been told that a PAVE PAWS radar in Georgia that looks southward operates at 420-450 MHz, but they've been on since 1987. Since they bounce signals off the ionosphere, it might in principle be plausible that they would test something new at a particular time of day... but the signals are *so* strong... The problem about estimating the strength of the signals is that we have these awkward line feeds (it's a spherical reflector) -- over 100 feet long! -- and I can't calculate gains for direct illumination of the feeds, which almost certainly is what's happening (they sit ~ 1000 feet above sea level with unimpeded view of the ocean in most directions). I guess my specific question is whether anyone has any clues as to what might be causing abnormaly high levels of radar RFI at 430 MHz (mostly, but not limited to, during the times of ~ 3-9pm) in or near Puerto Rico. Any help would be immensely appreciated! Fernando (fernando@pulsar.princeton.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 00:46:30 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!jfh@decwrl.dec.com Subject: W5YI's coverage of "temporary callsigns" To: info-hams@ucsd.edu md@maxcy2.maxcy.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan) wrote: >> You can't do it this way. (HINT: Ever wonder why /AT isn't used for >> technician upgrades?) > >No, I'm clueless. Why isn't /AT used for tech upgrades? Because it could be confused with a usage of the form KD6TTL/ZL1. The US "owns" prefixes AG, AE, and AA, so KD6TTL/AG wouldn't appear to be from another country, but we don't own AT (which is not assigned, according to my Callbook). -- ---------------------------------------------------- Jack Hamilton POB 281107 SF CA 94128 USA jfh@netcom.com kd6ttl@w6pw.#nocal.ca.us.na ------------------------------ Date: (null) From: (null) Alfred Benjamin Charles David Edward Frederick George Harry Isaac Jack King London Mary Nellie Oliver Peter Queen Robert Samuel Tommy Uncle Victor William Xray Yellow Zebra [Swiss version: Andrew Charlie Lussy Queenie Sugar] Sometimes used by radio hams (unofficial): America Boston Canada Denmark England France Germany Honolulu India Japan Kilowatt London Mexico Norway Ontario or Ocean Pacific Quebec Radio Santiago or Spain Tokyo United Victoria Washington Xray Yokohama Zanzibar [Much variation: Amsterdam, Brazil, Baltimore, Chile, Finland, Greece, Guatemala etc] The ARRL (American Radio Relay League) version (1948): Adam Baker Charlie David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John king Lewis Mary Nancy Otto Peter queen Robert Susan Thomas union Victor William x-ray young zebra [Nowadays the ARRL endorses the NATO/ICAO alphabet] ------------------------------ Date: (null) From: (null) Amsterdam Baltimore Casablanca Danemark Edison Florida Gallipoli Havana Italia Jerusalem Kilogramme Liverpool Madagascar New_York Oslo Paris Quebec Roma Santiago Tripoli Uppsala Valencia Washington Xantippe Yokohama Zurich [Described as 'international' but almost identical to an alphabet described as 'French'] ***** FRENCH ***** Contributor: Erik Tjong Kim Sang anatole bernard c'ecile denise 'emile fran5cois g'erard henri isidore jean kl'eber louis marcel nicole oscar pierre quital robert suzanne th'er`ese ursule victor wagon xavier yvonne zo'e or you may prefer this representation: anatole bernard c cile denise mile fran ois g rard henri isidore jean kl ber louis marcel nicole oscar pierre quital robert suzanne th r se ursule victor wagon xavier yvonne zo Contributor: Rudolf Lais (Swiss telephone directory) Anna Berthe Ce'cile Daniel Emile Franc,ois Gustave Henri Ida Jeanne Kilo Louise Marie Nicolas Olga Paul Quittance Robert Suzanne The're`se Ulysse Victor William Xavier Yvonne Zurich ***** GERMAN ***** Contributor: mrosa@eso.org (Michael Rosa) Anton Berta Caesar Dora Emil Friedrich Gustav Heinrich Ida Julius Karl Ludwig Martha Nordpol Otto Paula Quelle Richard Siegfried Theodor Ulrich Viktor Wilhelm Xanthippe Ypsilon Zeppelin Umlaut: A"rger O"dipus U"bel More recent replacements: Konrad Zacharias Contributor: Erik Tjong Kim Sang anton bertha c"asar dora emil friederich gustav heinrich ida julius kaufmann ludwig martha nordpol otto paula quelle richard samuel theodor ulrich viktor wilhelm xanthippe ypsilon zacharias "a "arger ch charlotte "o "okonom sch schule "u "ubermut Contributor: Rudolf Lais (Swiss telephone directory) Anna Bertha Caesar Daniel Emil Friedrich Gustav Heinrich Ida Jakob Kaiser Leopold Marie Niklaus Otto Peter Quelle Rosa Sophie Theodor Ulrich Viktor Wilhelm Xaver Yverdon Zuerich Contributor: Christof A Neumann (issued by Deutsche Bundespost) Anton Bertha Caesar Dora Emil Friedrich Gustav Heinrich Ida Jakob Konrad Ludwig Martha Nordpol Otto Paula Quelle Richard Siegfried Theodor Ulrich Viktor Wilhelm Xantippe Ypsilon Zeppelin sch Schule Contributor: Steve Dunham Anton Berta Caesar Dora Emil Friedrich Gustav Heinrich Ida Johann Kaufmann Ludwig Martha Nordpol Otto Paula quer Richard Siegfried Theodor Ulrich Viktor Wilhelm Xaver Ypsilon Zeppelin ss Eszett Contributor: Anno Siegel Arno Borvaselin Coburg-Gotha Doria Ernst Friedrichsroda Gomorrha Herrenzimmer Ida Jawohl_Odol Kolberg_Ost Leonidas Motor Nora Oekonom Per_Motorrad Quohnsdorf_bei_Forst Revolver Sabine Tod Uniform Verbrennungstod Weltnordpol Xolabaphon York_Yellowstone Zoroaster oe Oekonomie ue Ueberkonto [This alphabet provides mnemonics for Morse code: a syllable corresponds to a dash if it contains 'o', a dot otherwise.] ***** DUTCH and FLEMISH ***** Contributor: Erik Tjong Kim Sang Dutch Flemish a anna arthur b bernhard brussel c cornelis carolina d dirk desire e eduard emiel f ferdinand frederik g gerard gustaaf h hendrik hendrik i izaak isidoor j jan jozef k karel kilogram l lodewijk leopold m marie maria n nico napoleon o otto oscar p pieter piano q quotient qualite r rudolf robert s simon sofie t teunis telefoon u utrecht ursula v victor victor w willem waterloo x xantippe xavier ij ijmuiden - y ypsilon yvonne z zaandam zola ***** ITALIAN ***** Contributor: ebuie@sed.csc.com (Elizabeth Buie) ebuie@starlab.csc.com Ancona, Bologna, Como, Domodossola, Empoli, Firenze, Genova, Hacca, Imola, Jolly, Kappa, Livorno, Milano, Napoli, Otranto, Pisa/Palermo, Quartomiglio, Roma, Savona/Siena, Torino, Udine, Venezia, Wagner, Xilofono, York, Zara. Contributor: Rudolf Lais (Swiss telephone directory) Anna Battista Carol Davide Ernesto Federico Giovanni acca Isidoro i_lungo cappa Luigi Maria Nicola Olga Pietro Quintino Rodolfo Susanna Teresa Umberto Vittorio vu_doppia ics ipsilon Zurigo ***** RUMANTSCH ***** Contributor: Rudolf Lais (Swiss telephone directory) Anna Berta Carla Dora Emil Flurin Guido Hugo Ida Judit Kilo Luisa Maria Nesa Otto Paula Quirin Rita Silvia Toni Ursin Victor Willi Xaver Yvonne Zita ***** SWEDISH ***** Contributors: simon@dront.nada.kth.se (Simon Tardell) Jonas Wallgren Adam, Bertil, Cesar, David, Erik, Filip, Gustav, Helge, Ivar, Johan, Kalle, Ludvig, Martin, Niklas, Olof, Petter, Quintus, Rudolf, Sigurd, Tore, Urban, Viktor, Wilhelm, Xerxes, Yngve, Z{ta, ]ke, [rlig, \sten. where { is a with dots ] A with ring [ A with dots \ O with dots NB that W does not belong to the Swedish alphabet (it is merely considered a graphical variant of V). ***** HUNGARIAN ***** (telephone directory) Andra's Be'la Cecil Do'ra Eleme'r Ferenc Gizella Hajnalka Istva'n Ja'nos Katalin Luca Ma'tya's Na'ndor Olga Piroska Queen Ro'bert Sarolta Ti'mea Ubul Vilmos Walter Xe'nia Ypsilon Zolta'n ***** FINNISH ***** Contributor: Jukka Rahkonen Aarne Bertta Celsius Daavid Eemeli Faarao Gideon Heikki Iivari Jussi Kalle Lauri Matti Niilo Otto Paavo Kuu Risto Sakari Tyyne Urho Ville Viski [ks{ Yrj| Tseta ]ke [iti \ljy Uppercase Lowercase ] } a with circle (Swedish) [ { a with dots \ | o with dots ***** RUSSIAN ***** Contributor: tom@systemtechnik.tu-ilmenau.de (Thomas Planke) Aleksej Boris Vasilij Grigorij Dmitrij Elena Zhenja Zoya Ivan Ivan_Kratkij Kilowatt Leonid Maria Nikolai Olga Pavel Roman Sergej Tatjana Uljana Fjodor Hariton Zaplja Chelovek Shura Schuka Tviordiy_Znak Igrek Miagkiy_Znak Emilija Yuri Jakow ***** END ***** Brian Kelk Cambridge U.K. bck1@cl.cam.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: (null) From: (null) able baker charlie dog easy fox george how item jig king love mike nan oboe peter queen roger sugar tare uncle victor william x-ray yoke zebra [This one seems to have undergone quite a lot of evolution, with different branches of the U.S. armed forces using different versions. Entries also cited: affirm, cast, hypo, inter, negat, option, over, prep] Used (still?) by New York police: Adam Boston Chicago Denver Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nancy Ocean Peter Queen Robert Sam Thomas Union Victor William X-ray Young Zebra ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V93 #1455 ****************************** ******************************